tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2707703066300530859.post6454826410911605140..comments2024-03-15T02:09:23.712-06:00Comments on for the love of learning: Framing the reality of gradingAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15047405950514440042noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2707703066300530859.post-2258626788365139622011-01-04T06:04:19.245-07:002011-01-04T06:04:19.245-07:00Hi Ben,
Thanks for your response to my comment. I...Hi Ben,<br /><br />Thanks for your response to my comment. I know what you mean. You raise two points though – firstly I think it’s clear that, for good or bad, we live in a largely extrinsically orientated world: pay, incentives, prizes, accolades, rewards and the constant confusion of ‘success’ with happiness all point to a materialistically (as you yourself say) driven social formation.<br />Your second point focuses on a conception of social change from the ground up through education. I’m very partial to this idea but my question still stands: how robust are intrinsically motivated individuals in a predominantly extrinsically oriented world? Without concrete evidence, all we have is conjecture and that's pretty difficult stuff to build our arguments upon.Jim Hamlynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16488331333061422244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2707703066300530859.post-12937740407665411722011-01-03T18:07:53.881-07:002011-01-03T18:07:53.881-07:00J. Hamlyn,
I have to wonder if the world is reall...J. Hamlyn,<br /><br />I have to wonder if the world is really one of extrinsic incentives and rewards. The transition from grade school to adult life seems to be one of learning to utilize the intrinsic rewards of good, honest work. In fact, if we stopped getting students hooked on extrinsic rewards from an early age, we might end up with a less materialistic society as a whole.Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07963243816288716714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2707703066300530859.post-74595595151188282972011-01-02T19:28:01.038-07:002011-01-02T19:28:01.038-07:00Bullying became an "action" because kids...Bullying became an "action" because kids committed suicide over it ... Hope we don't something that radical for change every time.@Matt_Gomeznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2707703066300530859.post-56934665133055139522011-01-02T16:33:16.678-07:002011-01-02T16:33:16.678-07:00Good questions MrsC_Teach - I've been thinking...Good questions MrsC_Teach - I've been thinking the same too. Though I'm sure a decently thought through system of references rather than grades would be far preferable. <br /><br />I have one further question to add which is: what does the evidence show about the experience of individuals who have not been graded further on down the line, and most especially in more extrinsically oriented situations? In other words, how well does not grading students prepare them for a world of incentives and rewards? Do they cope well?And where is the empirical evidence that would be so useful to back up our arguments?Jim Hamlynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16488331333061422244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2707703066300530859.post-29252081120407199622011-01-02T11:09:29.664-07:002011-01-02T11:09:29.664-07:00Hi Joe,
Thanks for a great post. I find the no-gr...Hi Joe,<br /><br />Thanks for a great post. I find the no-grading discussion really valid. What I always get hung up on (it may not be valid) is how would an outsider (say a college) effectively evaluate students without some "standard" (and I fully acknowledge that grades really aren't standardized) to do so? Would an admissions office need to read 6+ pages of narratives about each applicant as one part of the applicant's file?<br /><br />I run in to similar road blocks when I try to imagine online higher ed, where there is more open education accessible to anyone, regardless of means. How would an employer verify that the person really had studied what he/she claimed to have studied.<br /><br />Anyway, thanks again for a though-provoking post to start the new year!<br /><br />~MrsC_TeachAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com